The formation of the warsaw pact was in some ways a response to the creation of nato, although it did. Military weapons and technologies only before 1956 are allowed. This is in stark contrast to the warsaw pact, which saw their use as. The eastern bloc nations were mostly coerced by the soviet union into the treaty so that the soviet union could maintain control of all armed forces within its dominion. How the ultimate cold war showdown could have killed millions by kyle mizokami guarding against these attacks and providing reararea security were twelve brigadesized units. There is no shortage of literature addressing the workings, influence, and importance of nato and the warsaw pact individually or how the two blocs faced off during the decades of the cold war. Jan 19, 2018 who would have won if the cold war went hot in 1989. Nato would have had to bring every game to the table, politics, diplomacy, propaganda, to attempt to sow discord in the pacts allies. Russia, i would give it to nato due to air superiority through sheer numbers if nothing else. The term has been in use since at least as early as 1941. In red storm rising russians managed to strike heavily on nato ships, due to invasion of iceland, but that was a novel 2 air war in 80s nato had already superior in terms of quality air units. Seato southeast asia treaty organization is a regional alliance based upon nato north.
The warsaw pact would have overrun denmark, west germany, and austria. One of the biggest what ifs of history was a war between the warsaw pact and nato. National security archive electronic briefing book no. Russia have the most nuke in the world control alot of europe petrol line alot of money soviet warfare technology active troop is 1,037,000 23,000 tank. The year is 1989 and in just 2 years the soviet union and its mighty warsaw pact would collapse politically, seeing an end to the cold war and. I am able to win any toaw scenario based in a conflict between nato vs warsaw pact if i play for warsaw pact against po red thunder for example, but there others. Instead, the conflict was fought on an ideological basis. Sep 30, 2018 the warsaw pact was established in 1955 after west germany became a part of nato. The warsaw pact was a collective defense treaty among 8 communist satellite nations of central and eastern europe in existence during the cold war. Chapter 4 the sovietwarsaw pact ground forces threat to. Parts i and ii, devoted primarily to warsaw pact capabilities and composition, constitute a revision of the first phase report sr js 702 on the warsaw pact threat. Everyday low prices and free delivery on eligible orders.
This text, enhanced by colour plates and photographs, examines the nato and warsaw pact tank forces of that era, focusing on tank firepower and crew training, and speculates as to the possible outcome had a conventional land war been fought between them. Nato vs warsaw pact who would win historical discussion. Warsaw pact had declared an allout war against the. In the first part of the cold war the warsaw pact was the superior military force, later the nato. It was formally known as the treaty of friendship, cooperation, and mutual assistance. Rest assured if it comes to war, you will see the former warsaw pact countries like poland, bulgaria and the czechs fighting hard.
In seven days to the rhine, soviet nuclear forces would destroy hamburg, dusseldorf, cologne, frankfurt, stuttgart, munich and the west german capital of bonn. I mean a house which is falling apart, would fall apart during an storm even faster. It is 2021, ukraine joins the eu and nato, this is unacceptable to russia and the red army rolls into the ukraine, t. Though the importance of tanks had dimished since their heyday in the second world war, on the modern battlefield they remained the dominant weapon. Robert farley, a frequent contributor to the national interest, is author of the battleship book. The warsaw pact threat to nato nssm84 introduction this is the final report of working group 5 of the interagency steering committee for national security study memorandum 84. Seven days to the river rhine was a topsecret military simulation exercise developed in 1979 by the warsaw pact. But even with a justification like that, the result would be just as grim. Intrabloc conflicts and millions of other books are available for amazon kindle. Mar 07, 2014 in red storm rising russians managed to strike heavily on nato ships, due to invasion of iceland, but that was a novel 2 air war in 80s nato had already superior in terms of quality air units. The twogermanies, nato, and the warsaw pact wilson. Essays on cold war tensions within nato and the warsaw pact. May 26, 2016 could nato go to war with russia and what would happen if it did. The warsaw treaty organization also known as the warsaw pact was a.
What alliance was stronger during the cold war, nato or. The main difference between the warsaw pact and nato however was that nato was an alliance of sovereign nations who cooperated willingly. The threat of west germanys entry into nato in 1955 caused the ussr to retaliate by forming the warsaw pact or treaty of friendship, cooperation and mutual assistance. He has published numerous books and articles dealing with modern military technology, especially armoured vehicle development. Nato kept the warsaw pact behind the berlin wall until its dissolution but what if it hadnt. I mean in our timeline there where a lot of revolutions in 1989. The most tank in the world nato active troop 3,000,000 powerful navy from america norad high powerful missile defense system. Nato and the warsaw pact history of western civilization ii. Britain, which has always been at the heart of nato, would also have been spared, suggesting. No nukes because we dont want the world to end, but nuclear power is allowed. The united states is a member of nato, so we need not refer to the united states and nato. World war iii wwiii or ww3 and the third world war are names given to a hypothetical third worldwide largescale military conflict subsequent to world war i and ii. An initial warsaw pact breakthrough of prepared nato defenses and prevention of counterattack.
Who would win if the warsaw pact attacked nato in the middle of winter. The us army had 108 pershing ii irbms in west germany. So many have looked back at the cold war thinking how close was the world to total destruction. The formation of the warsaw pact was in some ways a response to the creation of nato, although it did not occur until six years after the western alliance. Jan 08, 20 if the warsaw pact allies rallied to destory the nato allies for some crazy hypothetical reason leading to a wwiii, nato would have no choice but to defend itself. It depicted the soviet blocs vision of a sevenday nuclear war between nato and warsaw pact forces. However due to the better tankaircraftsubmarine technology of nato the reason why the eastern bloc had so enormous numbers in every branch of the armed forces, the warsaw pact would have suffered enormous losses imho think about the soviet t72 vs the abrams m1 in the first iraq war on land, sea, air and im not sure if the soviet elite of. The bear marches west contains 12 gaming scenarios set during a fictional warsaw pact invasion of west germany in the. Aug, 2008 russia vs nato, who will win the war analysis. Chapter 4 the sovietwarsaw pact ground forces threat to europe. It depends upon what aspect of strength you are looking at. May 1955, the soviets feared the consequences of a strengthened nato and a. The warsaw pa ct was created in reaction to the integration of west germany i nto n ato in 1955 per the london and paris conferences of 1954, but it is also considered to have been motivated by soviet desires to maintain control over military forces in central and eastern europe. But what were the real capabilities and intentions of the soviet union.
If nato and the warsaw pact fought a war against each. Set in the mid1980s, it features a third world war between the north atlantic treaty organization and warsaw pact forces. The book starts with a fictional battle between both sides, like in the third world war of back in the cold war the idea of a tank showdown at the fulda gap was the most intensely debated aspect of conventional warfare between nato and the warsaw pact. The result would be a headless nato and the destruction or demoralization of civilian governments in west germany, belgium, the netherlands.
Flankers and fulcrums were still novelty and majority of warsaw pact air. The warsaw pact could mobilise more reserves, move them forward, and commit them timestaggered in line with its echelon system, an advantage intensified by its geostrategically favourable position. On other hand, as ixjac just pointed out, 1984 nato air forces will be busy dealing with their soviet counterparts. The warsaw treaty organization, 1955 the warsaw treaty organization also known as the warsaw pact was a political and military alliance established on may 14, 1955 between the soviet union and several eastern european countries. There were four more member nations of nato than of the warsaw pact. If nato and the warsaw pact fought a war against each other.
Nato and warsaw pact countries can be included as far as supplies and trade are concerned, but they cant fight. If nato could preemp a warsaw pact invasion, it airforces could do a lot of useful interdiction. Nato and the warsaw pact were ideologically opposed and, over time, built up their own defences starting an arms race that lasted throughout the cold war. Warsaw pact ground forces elite nato armies 194987 elite. His most recent book is the cold war and soviet insecurity.
Any suggestion or consideration would be very appreciated. This is the first video of a three part series, exploring the balance of power between two sides. They also dont seem to feel it necessary to explain why a northern atlantic organisation should expand into eurasia and fight wars in central asia. Each with their peak military strength in five different scenarios.
The ussr condemned nato as a warmongering alliance and on may 14, 1955 the soviet union created a counteralliance called the warsaw pact. After the vietnam war, the us army paid for his soldiers. This is a nato vs warsaw pact game with three scenarios 1967, 1973, and the 1980s with variant rules. Russias way of fighting back further effects significance to canada the warsaw pact after ww2 germany was split into. Comparing nato and warsaw pact tank fleets, international. Who would have won if the cold war went hot in 1989. If a nonnuclear war broke out during the cold war between nato. Final completion of first echelon forces operations.
Was there anyway the soviets could win the cold war and if not why didnt they. Apr 15, 20 nato and the warsaw pact gale encyclopedia of u. I think the big question is how much the economic and political problems will hurt the warsaw pact. Sep 17, 2018 the threat of west germanys entry into nato in 1955 caused the ussr to retaliate by forming the warsaw pact or treaty of friendship, cooperation and mutual assistance. The year is 1989 and in just 2 years the soviet union and its mighty warsaw pact would collapse politically, seeing an end to the cold war and a defacto nato victory but what would have happened. Some have applied it loosely to refer to limited or smaller conflicts such as the cold war or the war on terror, while others assumed that such a conflict would surpass. In the present military situation there has been a shift in the weight and composition of the warsaw pact forces in central europe. The warsaw pact, made up of central and eastern european countries, was meant to counter the threat from the nato countries. Nato thought russia would crush them in a war until the. Force comparison of nato and the warsaw pact, including conventional forces, regional considerations, nuclear deterrence, defence expenditures and military production and technology. The warsaw pact would have used many more smaller tactical nukes against nato command posts, army bases, airfields.
The other ex warsaw pact nations would be steamrolled by nato air power within a week. By the 1980s nato had shifted to a flexible response nuclear doctrine. Nato headquarters in brussels would be annihilated, as would the belgian port of antwerp. Nato, the warsaw pact, and the superpowers the operational level of war. The new soviet government then negotiates for a ceasefire with nato and a. More information about the project can be found on the websites of the two institutions. Sure warsaw pact had quite few countries such as ddr being most advanced army in warsaw but still it lacked strength. Both nato and the warsaw pact led to the expansion of military forces and. Its likely those countries in warsaw pact probably would fall through quickly and join the nato. Jan 10, 2014 sure warsaw pact had quite few countries such as ddr being most advanced army in warsaw but still it lacked strength. Online shopping from a great selection at books store. Purposethe purpose of this organization is to increase the popularity of our common interests. Nominally the warsaw pact was a response to a similar treaty made by the western allies in 1949 the north atlantic treaty organisation, or nato as well as the remilitarization of west germany in 1954, both of which posed a potential threat to the eastern countries.
The expectation that nato could defeat the warsaw pact in battle only. Who would win in a war the united states and nato vs china. Warsaw pact during the cold war most of western europe was aligned with the united states through membership in the north atlantic treaty organization nato, while the soviet union maintained garrisons in its satellites under the terms of the warsaw pact. Nato thought russia would crush them in a war until. In the government war book, the mod considered three outline scenarios for a transition to war. Economically, socially, and willpower, id say the nato. Say tensions have been building for months so the nato countries and neutral countries like sweden, switzerland, finland, and austria have had sufficient time on the most. At the outset of conflict, mobilization and deployment. Militarily, in terms of sheer numbers and firepower available, id have to say it was the warsaw pact. The warsaw pact embodied what was referred to as the eastern bloc, while nato and its member countries represented the western bloc. The main difference between the warsaw pact and nato however. Available at a lower price from other sellers that may not offer free prime shipping. Also, i would expect ukraine at least the western part to fight against russia. When and why romania distanced itself from the warsaw pact, cold war international.
While the warsaw pact was established as a balance of power or counterweight to nato, there was no direct confrontation between them. Tactical nuclear weapons were at the core of nato warsaw pact doctrine. Comparison of nato and warsaw pact land forces in europe. A war does not end the causes of these revolutions, on the contrary the reinforce them. Operations in depth and into the rear areas of the defenders and. Learn vocabulary, terms, and more with flashcards, games, and other study tools. This text, enhanced by colour plates and photographs, examines the nato and warsaw pact tank forces of that era, focusing on tank firepower and crew training, and speculates as to the possible.
If the warsaw pact allies rallied to destory the nato allies for some crazy hypothetical reason leading to a wwiii, nato would have no choice but to defend itself. Warsaw pact vs nato without the ussr and the us, but both sides have control over ussr and us troops already in their territory eg east germany has command over soviet troops in east germany. Would the warsaw pact overwhelm nato forces with their armour and sink the us navy, or would nato be able to hold them back and bomb then to the. Beyond this argument, however, one can also suggest that the central mechanism of the cold war arms race in europe was the political competition between west. History, 2009 the united states, britain, and france along with other western european nations grew further apart from the soviet union after world war ii. Soviet of course, would be a challenge but i think itll be defeated by the amount of allied country making combined assault on soviet. Red storm rising is a war novel, written by tom clancy and cowritten with larry bond, and released on august 7, 1986. But in the soviet union it was still compulsory to serve, without payment. Warsaw pact without the ussr vs nato without the us. Both sides are not allowed to use nuclear weapons, arsenals of any kind. How the warsaw pact planned to win world war three in europe. One thing to note is that a 1984 nato vs 1984 soviet would have ground forces revealing themselves in ground combat unlike serbia as i understand it. Flankers and fulcrums were still novelty and majority of warsaw pact air forces was composed of mig23s and 21s.
Previously the combatready warsaw pact forces in east germany, poland, and czechoslovakia. This hypothetical war has been the subject of much analysis, debate and simulation. How the warsaw pact planned to win world war three. The iron curtain was the name of the impenetrable barrier or border between the central and eastern european countries of the soviet bloc, the sphere of influence of the soviet union, and the rest of europe during the cold war. The year is 1989 and in just 2 years the soviet union and its mighty warsaw pact would collapse politically, seeing an end to the cold war and a defacto nato victory but.